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		<title>Mac Fife: Added poster attributions to make comments easier to follow</title>
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		<updated>2009-02-01T21:55:30Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Added poster attributions to make comments easier to follow&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &amp;quot;Beginnings:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Origin Points:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot;.  Look at Marten's work on instancing as an example.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &amp;quot;Beginnings:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Origin Points:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot;.  Look at Marten's work on instancing as an example. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-- [[User:Admin|Admin]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Um, what project name would it be?  Perhaps &amp;quot;Beginnings - Debate&amp;quot;?  I made it as a sort of hub page for all the Beginnings: Projects, so it's basically a summary of all arguments I could find and the potential problems that need to be solved.  There should also be a KI hub and an Instancing hub, but I don't feel knowledgeable in those areas to make them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Um, what project name would it be?  Perhaps &amp;quot;Beginnings - Debate&amp;quot;?  I made it as a sort of hub page for all the Beginnings: Projects, so it's basically a summary of all arguments I could find and the potential problems that need to be solved.  There should also be a KI hub and an Instancing hub, but I don't feel knowledgeable in those areas to make them. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-- [[User:Gehn, lord of ages|Gehn, lord of ages]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I see what you're doing.  I was thinking the word 'debate' should not be included in the title of an article about any one proposal.  But this looks like a page doing what it says, summarizing the different proposals.  So that's actually a good title.  It should include links to the various proposals on the wiki.  If there's no wiki article yet, a link to a forum thread will have to do.  Now, all you have to do is get the authors of the major proposals to write their articles which, theoretically, include consolidation of the forum discussions.  ;)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;I see what you're doing.  I was thinking the word 'debate' should not be included in the title of an article about any one proposal.  But this looks like a page doing what it says, summarizing the different proposals.  So that's actually a good title.  It should include links to the various proposals on the wiki.  If there's no wiki article yet, a link to a forum thread will have to do.  Now, all you have to do is get the authors of the major proposals to write their articles which, theoretically, include consolidation of the forum discussions.  ;) &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-- [[User:Admin|Admin]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Mac Fife</name></author>
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		<title>Admin at 17:26, 29 January 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-29T17:26:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Um, what project name would it be?  Perhaps &amp;quot;Beginnings - Debate&amp;quot;?  I made it as a sort of hub page for all the Beginnings: Projects, so it's basically a summary of all arguments I could find and the potential problems that need to be solved.  There should also be a KI hub and an Instancing hub, but I don't feel knowledgeable in those areas to make them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Um, what project name would it be?  Perhaps &amp;quot;Beginnings - Debate&amp;quot;?  I made it as a sort of hub page for all the Beginnings: Projects, so it's basically a summary of all arguments I could find and the potential problems that need to be solved.  There should also be a KI hub and an Instancing hub, but I don't feel knowledgeable in those areas to make them.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I see what you're doing.  I was thinking the word 'debate' should not be included in the title of an article about any one proposal.  But this looks like a page doing what it says, summarizing the different proposals.  So that's actually a good title.  It should include links to the various proposals on the wiki.  If there's no wiki article yet, a link to a forum thread will have to do.  Now, all you have to do is get the authors of the major proposals to write their articles which, theoretically, include consolidation of the forum discussions.  ;)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Gehn, lord of ages at 16:44, 29 January 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-29T16:44:51Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &amp;quot;Beginnings:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Origin Points:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot;.  Look at Marten's work on instancing as an example.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &amp;quot;Beginnings:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Origin Points:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot;.  Look at Marten's work on instancing as an example.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Um, what project name would it be?  Perhaps &amp;quot;Beginnings - Debate&amp;quot;?  I made it as a sort of hub page for all the Beginnings: Projects, so it's basically a summary of all arguments I could find and the potential problems that need to be solved.  There should also be a KI hub and an Instancing hub, but I don't feel knowledgeable in those areas to make them.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Admin: New page: Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &quot;Beginnings:&lt;project name&gt;&quot; or &quot;Origin Points:&lt;project name&gt;&quot;.  Look at Marten's work on instancing as an example.</title>
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		<updated>2009-01-28T20:45:24Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &amp;quot;Beginnings:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Origin Points:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot;.  Look at Marten&amp;#039;s work on instancing as an example.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Please consider giving this more scope and making it something like &amp;quot;Beginnings:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Origin Points:&amp;lt;project name&amp;gt;&amp;quot;.  Look at Marten's work on instancing as an example.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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